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                              <p>A la suite de <a href="/blog/20071109/cedric_chouingmedia_is__surtout_ne_bougez_plus/" title="beacon facebook">notre pr&eacute;c&eacute;dent &eacute;change concernant beacon</a>, j&#39;ai cherch&eacute; des arguments pro-beacon sans vraiment en trouver. Puis Ph. Langlois s&#39;est abonn&eacute; &agrave; <a href="http://twitter.com/Chouingmedia" title="twitter chouingmedia">mon flux twitter</a> et via <a href="http://twitter.com/phlanglois" title="ph langlois twitter">son profil</a> je suis tomb&eacute; sur <a href="http://blog.wegotideas.com/" title="we got ideas blog">son blog</a> et notamment <a href="http://blog.wegotideas.com/2007/11/04/beacon-la-publicite-ciblee-selon-facebook-et-lentree-dans-le-social-shopping/" title="ph langlois beacon">ce billet</a> dans lequel il d&eacute;fend le programme de pub de facebook. <a href="http://blog.wegotideas.com/2007/11/04/beacon-la-publicite-ciblee-selon-facebook-et-lentree-dans-le-social-shopping/" title="we got ideas">Ses arguments sont largement d&eacute;velopp&eacute;s</a> aussi je vous invite &agrave; y jeter un oeil.</p><p>Je n&#39;adh&egrave;re pas trop &agrave; ses arguments (<a href="http://blog.wegotideas.com/2007/11/04/beacon-la-publicite-ciblee-selon-facebook-et-lentree-dans-le-social-shopping/#comments" title="ph langlois we got ideas">il est au courant</a>...) et me rends compte de l&#39;ineptie de beacon en tant que programme de recommandation aupr&egrave;s de mes contacts. En effet il y a une erreur chronologique fondamentale dans cette affaire que nous avions l&eacute;g&egrave;rement &eacute;voqu&eacute; sans l&#39;expliquer.</p><p>Le principe de beacon est d&#39;envoyer dans le newsfeed de vos potes facebookiens (?) le type d&#39;info suivante : &quot;C&eacute;dric est en train d&#39;acheter &quot;<a href="http://ronez.typepad.com/lecritweb/" title="l&#39;&eacute;crit web joel ronez">L&#39;&eacute;crit Web</a>&quot; de Joel Ronez sur <a href="http://www.amazon.fr/L%C3%A9crit-Web-Traitement-linformation-Internet/sim/2353070051/2" title="&eacute;crit web joel ronez amazon">amazon.fr</a>&quot;. Nous &eacute;tions d&#39;accord la derni&egrave;re fois pour dire que c&#39;&eacute;tait une pratique douteuse.</p><p>Mais ce qui l&#39;est encore plus, c&#39;est de consid&eacute;rer cela comme de la recommandation. <strong>Ce n&#39;est pas parce que je suis en train de l&#39;acheter que le livre est bon : c&#39;est parce que je l&#39;ai lu et que je l&#39;appr&eacute;cie. </strong>Si je compare ce principe &agrave; des syst&egrave;mes d&eacute;j&agrave; existants, c&#39;est comme si mes potes &eacute;taient pr&eacute;venus de ma r&eacute;servation dans <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chouingmedia/1321418780/in/set-72157601854315856/" title="hotel le calendal arles">un h&ocirc;tel d&#39;Arles</a>. Mais aucun site ne suit ce type d&#39;infos, car ce qui est int&eacute;ressant, c&#39;est ce que <a href="http://www.vinivi.com/fr-Hotel-Bouches_du_Rhone-France-r4475-Avis-Le_Calendal.aspx#57248" title="avis le calendal arles">j&#39;en pense apr&egrave;s</a>. D&eacute;cidemment, j&#39;ai du mal avec facebook !</p><p>Par ailleurs et pour ceux qui veulent suivre l&#39;actu de facebook je vous recommande <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/" title="nick o&#39;neill facebook">le blog de Nick O&#39;Neill</a>. On y apprend plein de choses. <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2007/11/moveonorg-to-challenge-facebook-beacon/" title="facebook nick o&#39;neill">Son dernier post</a> rejoint d&#39;ailleurs en partie mes doutes avec l&#39;exemple suivant :</p><p><em>Just yesterday I was speaking with a journalist who pinged me for more details about Facebook&rsquo;s Beacon system. He had purchased a new pair of shoes for his daughter at Zappos.com and that purchase was transferred to his Facebook newsfeed. If this purchase had been intended as a gift, his daughter would soon know about it thanks to the new Beacon service.</em>&nbsp;</p><p>Note : en l&#39;occurence vous pouvez y aller, &quot;<a href="http://ronez.typepad.com/lecritweb/" title="l&#39;&eacute;crit web joel ronez">L&#39;&eacute;crit Web</a>&quot; est un bon bouquin :o)&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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                                    Je suis d'accord avec toi, mais pas forcément pour les mêmes raisons : l'utilité de Facebook est sa simplicité d'utilisation.. s'il devient complexe car encombré de notifications du genre " Untel est fan de la nouvelle Fiat " , que c'est à peine si vous connaissez Untel et que vous n'aimez pas Fiat, vous allez plus facilement laisser tomber Facebook au profit de différents concurrents qui peuvent voir en Baecon un génial outil de promotion gratuite !
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                                    <em>written on 21-Nov-2007</em>
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                                    Salut MiKE, dis, j'ai pas trop parler de l'utilité de facebook là si ? Disons que je ne suis pas sûr de comprendre ton commentaire ;o)
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                                    pas mal finalement Beacon, cela permet de signaler les bons livres <img class="emoticon" src="http://www.chouingmedia.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif" />
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                                    <em>written on 27-Nov-2007</em>
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                                    <em>written on 28-Nov-2007</em>
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                                    Big Brother is watching you ... et ce n'est pas nouveau ;-)
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                                    Vidéo excellente, merci. A prendre avec des pincettes cependant car je n'ai pas le temps de la vérifier et, comme souvent avec les vidéos de "propagande", elles biaisent la réalité. Mais quand même merci <img class="emoticon" src="http://www.chouingmedia.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif" />
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                                    A propos de Beacon et surtout du Mea Culpa de Zuckerberg, ceci démontre une certaine intelligence de la part du management de Facebook qui a su reconnaître la force des utilisateurs et blogueurs. Le point de vue "si t'aime pas n'y vas pas" ne tient pas dans l'ascension d'un service de masse comme Facebook. Même si le service tourne grâce à la pub, pas n'importe quelle pub ! <br /><br />Je trouve que c'est une grosse victoire pour le futur de l'utilisation des données personnelles pour servir la pub. Ce cas d'école devrait faire réfléchir les créateurs de service peu scrupuleux, si on veux monter un service de masse, il faut respecter le souhait de l'utilisateur et savoir reconnaître et corriger ses erreurs rapidement.
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